Who's got a Lilja Barrel on their QUAD?

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  1. thwackkk

    thwackkk Well-Known Member

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    Give us all a look....


    How do you like it?

    How's Accuracy?

    I'm looking to buy Sporter 17M2 barrel, and a Heavy .22lr Barrel very soon.
     

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    Has anybody tried the stainless .910 23" 17HMR Lilja heavy barrel on the quad
     
  3. Aries64

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    I have 21", .900" O.D. Lilja barrels in .22LR and .17HMR for my recently-acquired euroOptic Sako Quad Special Edition, but I've only shot the .22LR. As the rifle came with the Lilja barrels I can't provide an accuracy comparison between the factory barrels and the Lilja barrels. and even if I could, one guy with one rifle, two factory barrels, and two aftermarket barrels is much too small a sample to be a solid representation. That said, when my follow-through is correct, under light wind conditions, sub-MOA accuracy is possible, if not probable. I've only shot my Quad SE three (3) times now, but sub-MOA five-shot groups at 100 and disintegration of quarter-size pieces of clay pigeon at 300 yards aren't uncommon when I do everything just right. And that's with 40gr. Wolf MT and 40gr. SK Standard Plus - not "premium" ammo.

    NOTES: Lilja "Drop-In".22LR barrels for the Sako Quad have a Bentz Chamber, so unlike factory Quad barrels the rear of the chamber isn't relieved to aid feeding. Because of this, .22LR bullets will often contact the edge of the chamber between approximately 7 and 5 'O Clock, shaving the lead off of the bullet. This can't help accuracy, so in order to reduce bullet deformation/damage on the way in I used very fine Cratex abrasive bits to slightly relieve the rear of the chamber between 5 and 7 "O Clock. I have 5-round and 10-round .22LR magazines, and .22LR bullets feed a lot better than before, but not perfectly. Bullets are still shaved-down occasionally, but I'll live with it as I'm getting excellent accuracy and I don't want to remove too much material (and possibly compromise case head support). I've haven't fired any .17HMR so I can't comment on .17HMR feeding.

    Also, I realize that I've replied to a thread whose original post was five (5) years ago, and that the only reply to the original post was 4.5 years ago, so the questions by the original poster and the Member who posted in the thread subsequently have probably long since been answered. However, since no one at all replied to their questions at all in five years, the questions are legitimate, and that Lilja Quad barrels cost more than $400.00 PLUS shipping and .22LR bullets can deform during chambering I figure my post is warranted.

    Lilja .22LR and .17HMR barrels of euroOptic Sako Quad Special Edition:
    Aries64 EO Sako Quad Lilja .22LR Barrel Engravings 8x6.JPG Aries64 EO Sako Quad Lilja .17HMR Barrel Engravings 8x6.jpg



    Keith
     
  4. susanna

    susanna Well-Known Member

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    keith. love to see a photo of the whole rifle. plenty of quads down here in australia but not seen one using that name.
    susanna
     
  5. Aries64

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    Hi Susanna -

    euroOptic is a company in Montoursville, Pennsylvania (USA), that specializes in high-end firearms, optics, and accessories. They sell new and used, and take trade-ins as well. Alex Roy and Jason Baney there are great to work with. Anyway, in 2012 euroOptic commissioned 49 rifles to be built on Sako Quad actions - mine is #6 of 49, and an engraving on the left sode of the receiver denotes this. I love my euroOptic Sako Quad SE and would like to post all the photos I have in high-resolution, but Forum rules prohibit more than 4 photos in a thread, and a maximum of 800x600dpi, so I'll post some of my favorites. Here are four, just click on the thumbnails for the 800x600 resolution.

    euroOptic Sako Quad Special Edition:
    Aries64 EO Sako Quad Ti Rail LSRA PMII ARD BLACK1 NO SN 8x6.jpg Aries64 EO Sako Quad Ti Rail RSRA PMII ARD BLACK1 8x6.JPG

    PMII 5-25X[56] on top of 45MOA Murphy Precision Titanium Rail:
    Aries64 EO Sako Quad RS ACTION BLACK 8x6.JPG

    ACCU-SHOT BT28 Picatinny Rail riding in 10" McMillan Anschutz Rail:
    BT28 in Anschutz Rail TorX Screws OH2.JPG


    Keith
     
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    Fantastic precision trainer!
    Which stock is that?
     
  7. Aries64

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    I apologize for my very late reply, (this question was asked 14.5 months ago), but just-in-case you haven't figured it out, the stock is a McMillan A3 with molded-in colors, Adjustable Cheekpiece, and McMillan's Spacer System LOP (Length-of-Pull). On the bottom of the stock is a 10" Anschutz Rail which an ACCU-SHOT BT28 Picatinny Rail resides in to accommodate QD bipod. The left side of the stock has a pair of Flush Cup Sling Swivel Mounts.

    Something that's hard to see from the photos for even a practiced eye thoroughly familiar with McMillan stocks is that the cheekpiece height adjustment is the KMW ACH (Adjustable Cheekpiece Hardware), which is both mechanically and aesthetically superior to any of the McMillan ACH systems - including McMillan's "Single Screw Clampbar". The "problem" with the KMW ACH is that McMillan doesn't install it, so the KMW ACH must be installed after you've already waited for the stock from McMillan, adding a delay before you can bed and use your new stock.

    However, having owned, shot, and/or handled rifles with McMillan A2, A3, A4, A5, and A3-5 stocks with the McMillan Thumbwheel, Clampbar, Single Screw Clampbar, Saddle, and Integral, ACHs' I can personally attest to the additional wait being well worth the additional wait.

    For information about which McMillan stocks are inletted for the Sako Quad, as well as which McMillan stocks are available molded in two pieces to facilitate installation of the KMW ACH please see my reply to "smoketrail"'s "Sako Quad aftermarket stocks" thread:

    http://sakocollectors.com/forum/threads/sako-quad-after-market-stocks.7762/


    To close this out, and in attempt to keep the anyone interested in what makes the KMW ACH superior to McMillan's ACHs' and wants info on how to correctly order a McMillan stock for use with the KMW Inlet can email me at keith@tacopsinc.com. Below are some closeups of the KMW ACH installed in the buttstock of the A3 of my Quad. Note the flush-fit of the Adjustment Screw and Post Clampbar (in the buttstock), as well as the flush-fit Post Base.

    Right side closeup of flush-fit KMW Post Clampbar, "Height-Retention" E-Clip, and Adjustment Screw:
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    Left side closeup showing flush-fit KMW Post Clampbar, "Height-Retention" E-Clip, and Adjustment Screw:

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    Flush-fit KMW Post Base in Cheekpiece:
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    Closeup of flush-fit KMW Post Clampbar in Buttstock:

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    Keith
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2018
  8. pbign

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    I have a .22LR Lilja heavy barrel. If you select your batches for the best accuracy, I would say the accuracy is the same as the Sako H.B. But if you expect for keeping the same point of impact with different ammunition, the Lilja is better, this is the only difference. Since heavier barrel doesnt mean better accuracy on this rifle because of the fixture system, I would choose a lighter contour (varmint Sundberg taper).
     

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