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  1. 7x57hunter

    7x57hunter Member

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    I received my factory information on my L57…I was wondering if anyone knows what “dpt w/20” means? Also what does “lubbal” mean on the others?

     

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    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    "Lubbal" indicates that serial number was assigned to an action-only, not a finished rifle. Sako supplied L57 actions to other manufacturers who produced rifles on them for numerous proprietary brands like Ward's, Colt, and NAACO.

    The letter and number codes indicate some of the features of a rifle such as with or without sights, whether walnut or birch stock, etc. However, we do not have complete information on exactly which features are indicated by which number/letter codes. We do know that "dpt" does indicate a walnut stock.
     
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    Thank you! If you are collecting information mine is a “sporter” perhaps they designated between sporter and Heavy Barrel
     
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    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    The Heavy Barrels were noted with an "R" for "raskas", meaning heavy or fat in the inspection records, the Deluxes were marked either "Dlx" or "Deluxe", and full stocks were marked "Mann". Standard sporters had no notation. About 1968 the shipping records began segregating the Standards, Deluxes, Mannlichers, and Heavy Barrels on separate pages so it is a bit easier to know a rifle's configuration (as well as to find it in the shipping records which are not in serial number order.)

    So far as we have been able to determine, there are no notations in the factory records that will tell us things like the floorplate pattern on a Deluxe, or whether a barrel was stamped "Bofors Steel". Of course, the vast majority of Sakos in the U.S. were originally shipped to the U.S. importer at the time (F.I., Garcia, Stoeger), but we do run across a lot of Sakos in the U.S. which originally went to European outlets. Most of these were likely "bring backs" by U.S. Servicemen stationed in Europe; and some were shipped to Rod & Gun clubs located on or near U. S. bases. Perhaps the most interesting note in the shipping records are a few that went to "U.S. Embassy". These appear to be presentations to visiting American dignitaries such as one presented to Vice-President Lyndon Johnson in 1962 and three Deluxe Finnbears in 7mm Rem Mag presented to each of the Apollo 11 Astronauts.
     
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    Received a couple factory records for some recently acquired pieces.

    Model L461 No. 104730 in .223 Bofors marked. Insp. Sept 5 1968. Shipped to Mssers firearms co. England on Sept 18 1968

    Model L579 No. 43922 in .308 deluxe. Insp. March 1 1965. Shipped to Albrecht Kind in Germany on March 3 1965

    Of the 3 records requests I have made, 2 were shipped to Albrecht Kind. Both have triple white line spacers and both deluxe models. All 3 originally went to overseas countries.
     
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    deergoose Sako-addicted

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    I've sent another round of rifles to the Records Service, and here are the results:

    1) L61R deluxe in .264WinMag #2303: Inspected on 10/12/1962, shipped the same day in shipping lot #10298, and was one of twenty-four (24) .264WM rifles in that shipment to Firearms International. This rifle has the seldom encountered Moose/Antlers engraved trigger guard assembly.

    2) L61R deluxe in .264WinMag #38566: Inspected on 3/16/1970, shipped on 3/19/1970 in shipping lot #5221, and was one of twelve (12) .264WM deluxe sporters in that shipment to Firearms International. This rifle has the rare 25" barrel.

    3) L46 sporter in .218Bee #13263: Inspected on 5/7/1953, shipped on 5/8/1953 in shipping lot #7476, and was one of twenty (20) .218Bee rifles in that shipment to Firearms International.

    4) L579 deluxe in .308Win #29447: Inspected on 9/11/1963, shipped on 12/3/1963 in shipping lot #2217 to Kemr. Simelius, and was one of seven (7) .308 rifles in that shipment. This rifle has the "FishGods" floorplate/trigger guard engraving pattern, and Kemr. Simelius is General Sakari Simelius, who was the Commander-In-Chief of the Finnish Defense Forces in 1963. (See additional Post on the history of this rifle).

    Interesting stuff !
    DeerGoose
     
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    douglastwo Well-Known Member

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    Is number 2 Bofors marked? Thanks for sharing DG!!
     
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    deergoose Sako-addicted

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    It is not. Has the FI stamp on the bottom of the barrel. Heavier barrel contour. A beast of a rifle.

    DeerGoose
     
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