Sako S491 deluxe .223

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  1. scp

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    I have come across a Sako S491 Deluxe .223 unfired in the box still. Can anyone give me some history on this rifle in value, rate of twist,accuracy,manufactered time frame or any general knowledge of the S491.

    Thanks

     

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    It was the successor to the A-I and had a larger diameter bolt and action. It also had a non-integral recoil lug. I think it was produced from the late 1980s into the 1990s, but am not certain of the dates, and it should be a Stoeger import. It should be valued about like an L461 or A-I in like condition, but I personally find the heavier action not as desirable for these small cartridges. However, that doesn't mean that I would refuse to give it a ride home at the right price![​IMG]
     
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    Stonecreek,

    I was wondering if you could tell me if there are similar differences in a 579 and 591? I know the 591 has the seperate recoil lug, but are the bolt and action larger on the 591 than on the 579?

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    Rick
     
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    Sako advertising at the time of the introduction of the S-series touted the fact that all of their actions would now be of the same diameter. (I think that our fearless leader, Jim, has posted an advertisement with that information.) I assume that diameter is equal to the largest action (S-691), which should have been similar to the L61R in size. If that logic is correct, then comparing the L579 diameter to the L61R should tell you if the L579 replacement (L591) was of larger diameter. (I hope you can follow that logic; I know it is pretty serpentine!)

    Now, I believe that the barrel shank of an L579 is smaller than the barrel shank of an L-61R, therefore I'm going to guess that the diameter of the S-591 is a bit larger than that of the L-579.

    This is only a guess; I'm sure that someone here actually knows.
     
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    Guys!
    Here are some info on the differences:
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    Jim,
    Great sheet on the standardization. It's good you collect that stuff. No one can ever argue with a factory statement in writing.
    Stonecreek, you have a good memory. All of this makes me feel somewhat better about my "old" L61R's for some reason.
    S-A
     
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    Can anyone tell me what the value of a S491 deluxe unfired in the box would be? What rate of twist did the .223 come in? Also what type of accuracy should I expect? Thanks
     
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    If I had a NIB S491 Deluxe in 223 I would be looking for 1800-2000.00. If after the first barrage of well heeled tire kickers didn't snap it up I would soften my stance. I've sold 3 L461/A1 Deluxes, 2 in 222 and 1 in 223 in the last 2 years, the least was 1275.00 and the most was 1400.00. All were mint rifles, ie you would have to take them out in the daylight to see any marks on them, none had the factory boxes with them, all had the hangtags and all were sold on Gunbroker. I don't hold the S491 in as high esteem as others do, to me the A1 is the most desirable of the small actioned Sako's. I do have a S491 custom in 223 but the only part that is Sako is the action and the removeable recoil lug is not something I consider a positive, I paid 600.00 for it on Gunbroker last year and frankly it is one of my best PD guns. As with all collectors, something that sticks in ones craw may just slide right down on someone else. As for accuracy I've never had a factrory Sako rifle that would shoot with a custom built by someone that knew what they were doing with a premium barrel, ie Pacnor, Krieger, Hart, etc. Shooting factory ammo I would think MOA or less, taking the time to handload a specific combo probably .5-.75 would be pretty easy. I've never owned a Sako that shot like a turd, something that I can't say for other manufacturers.
     
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    scp,

    Are you selling? I would be interested.
     
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    Not interested in selling I am going to shoot this one. Can anyone tell me what rate of twist these have?
     
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    Sako says it's a 12" T.
     
  12. rkbacorn

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    Did you purchase the 491 Deluxe? Regards
     
  13. scp

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    It's sitting in my safe
     
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    Would love too buy or trade for it. Have 42 Sako rifles if you are looking for a particular one.Regards,Robert
     
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    Robert,

    You got 42 SAKO ? Wow....
     
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    Does that sako have thicker pistol grip? Mine does but i like slender like my others!
    I have s491 short action deluxe in 223 second one from bottom,special ordered it and prepaid but when it came i guess they sent the reps gun ,the dealer wanted more money ,needless to say he didnt get and rep didnt get his high grade of wood stock either !LOL
    Iam reloading so wondering if this is a 1 12 twist and 23 inch barrel
    28g win748 40g vmax neck sized
    is 40 grain bullet good choice
     

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