sako mauser

[bumppo]

please explain how this rifle is a Sako and in which decade it may have been produced?

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[stonecreek]

It might have a Sako trigger. Otherwise, there is nothing about it that is Sako.

 

[bigcountry4me]

how this rifle is a Sako

It’s simply not a Sako. A Douglas barrel on a Mauser (perhaps FN) makes it a custom with no Sako attributes, unless the trigger is Sako, but I even doubt that.

 

[bumppo]

thanks.
I asked the store's gun room why exactly they call it a sako, and they said (i quote): "It is one of the first sako's they used old 98 actions. "

 

[stonecreek]

It is certainly possible that the action came off of a Sako-Mauser, but only the barrel and stock (and on some, the trigger) was Sako. Once you take the barrel (which had the serial number) and stock off there ain't nothin' about it that makes it "A Sako" and there is no way to establish that the action came from what was once a Sako-Mauser.

 

[Arian]

Sako "mausers" do exist from what i have seen here in Finland but they would be reworked swedes, mostly late 40s i think so yea early sako for sure, mostly built on carl gustav and husky actions from what i have seen. I heard locally that Sako did produce mauser actions as well alongside mosin bases ones until they figured out their own design.

These are local offerings in the gunshop.

never seen anything like that one. But iam not an expert. Looks off tho, i have only seen ones based on k98k and m96 actions personally.

 

[icebear]

We are looking at two different critters here. On the one hand, in the immediate postwar period Sako and several others converted surplus military rifles for sporting use, including German and Swedish Mausers as well as Arisakas and lever-action Winchester model 95's.

Later, Sako built rifles on new Mauser-type actions made on contract by FN in Belgium. These were sold as the Sako High Power rifle during the 1950's. It is these rifles and not the surplus conversions that American collectors sometimes call Sako-Mauser. They are also known as FN-Sako or Sako High Power. Here are a pair of FN-Sako rifles, a custom .300 H&H on top and a factory original .30-06 below.

 

[Arian]

We are looking at two different critters here. On the one hand, in the immediate postwar period Sako and several others converted surplus military rifles for sporting use, including German and Swedish Mausers as well as Arisakas and lever-action Winchester model 95's.

Later, Sako built rifles on new Mauser-type actions made on contract by FN in Belgium. These were sold as the Sako High Power rifle during the 1950's. It is these rifles and not the surplus conversions that American collectors sometimes call Sako-Mauser. They are also known as FN-Sako or Sako High Power. Here are a pair of FN-Sako rifles, a custom .300 H&H on top and a factory original .30-06 below.
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i wasnt aware of those but now i kinda want one. Where these ever made in smaller actions? like 243. I have a thing for mausers. I have only seen them locally in 8.2x57 and 7.2x55 civilianised military cartridges (law prohibited military cartridges back then.

 

[icebear]

i wasnt aware of those but now i kinda want one. Where these ever made in smaller actions? like 243. I have a thing for mausers. I have only seen them locally in 8.2x57 and 7.2x55 civilianised military cartridges (law prohibited military cartridges back then.

The FN-Sako was made in .270, .30-06, .300 H&H Magnum, .375 H&H Magnum, 8x60, and 8x60S Magnum. There may have been a few in 7x57mm, but I am not sure of that. Husqvarna made some smaller caliber rifles on Mauser-type actions. The CZ 527 is a Mauser-type action designed around the .222 Remington cartridge; it has also been made in .223 and .22 Hornet. There was also an earlier version from Brno; I think it was called the Brno Fox but I'm not sure. The 527 is comparable in quality, cost, and performance to the Sako L46. Here's a photo of a CZ 527. The photo shows the gun without its detachable magazine, which extends below the action in front of the trigger guard.

 

[Arian]

The FN-Sako was made in .270, .30-06, .300 H&H Magnum, .375 H&H Magnum, 8x60, and 8x60S Magnum. There may have been a few in 7x57mm, but I am not sure of that. Husqvarna made some smaller caliber rifles on Mauser-type actions. The CZ 527 is a Mauser-type action designed around the .222 Remington cartridge; it has also been made in .223 and .22 Hornet. There was also an earlier version from Brno; I think it was called the Brno Fox but I'm not sure. The 527 is comparable in quality, cost, and performance to the Sako L46. Here's a photo of a CZ 527. The photo shows the gun without its detachable magazine, which extends below the action in front of the trigger guard.
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i love the look of that one, iam particular to huskies but they are surprisingly rare out here in any other chambering than 9.3x62, moose hunters used to go nuts for them before 308 became the "ultimate" cartridge. I May be ignorant but 308 just seems like a mediocre caliber to me compared to its local predesessors 30-06, 7.62x53 and 6.5x55. But the CZ is quite common around here, even the full stock ones. If i cant find a Sako mauser in a small caliber may need to go for a CZ, i just find their actions a bit clunky based on examples in my local gunshop altho those may have been worn out? never handled a new CZ

 

[Carl krupski]

It is certainly possible that the action came off of a Sako-Mauser, but only the barrel and stock (and on some, the trigger) was Sako. Once you take the barrel (which had the serial number) and stock off there ain't nothin' about it that makes it "A Sako" and there is no way to establish that the action came from what was once a Sako-Mauser.

Yeah I got a 308 Deluxe 19 60 in real good shape I need to talk to somebody to get the skinny on my beautiful gun

 

[Carl krupski]

Yeah I got a 308 Deluxe 19 60 in real good shape I need to talk to somebody to get the skinny on my beautiful gun

 

[bigcountry4me]

So Carl, yours is not a Sako Mauser. It’s actually an L579 Sako Deluxe rifle, I can see the Bofors marked barrel, but frankly the photos aren’t very good. Please take some additional photos in better lighting. You may have a real gem.

 

[bloorooster]

Indeed!
Early flat bolt Forester!
The Sakolope engraving looks to possibly be the bold , gold ,pointy horned type too which is cool.
T’would be a good candidate for a record search … nice rifle!

If you choose to add more photos…put on some nice socks

 

[Carl krupski]

So Carl, yours is not a Sako Mauser. It’s actually an L579 Sako Deluxe rifle, I can see the Bofors marked barrel, but frankly the photos aren’t very good. Please take some additional photos in better lighting. You may have a real gem

Indeed!
Early flat bolt Forester!
The Sakolope engraving looks to possibly be the bold , gold ,pointy horned type too which is cool.
T’would be a good candidate for a record search … nice rifle!

If you choose to add more photos…put on some nice socks

Thanks for the reply I will try to get some better pictures for you I took it to the range and the gun show and got ridiculously low offers on it I would appreciate what you think it's worth thank you

 

[Carl krupski]

So Carl, yours is not a Sako Mauser. It’s actually an L579 Sako Deluxe rifle, I can see the Bofors marked barrel, but frankly the photos aren’t very good. Please take some additional photos in better lighting. You may have a real gem.

 

[bloorooster]

We are not very good at valuation..it seems to bring contempt and animosity.
You have a nice rifle…own it and enjoy or price it and sell. The web will provide you with enough information to decide what you want out of it.

 

[Carl krupski]

Thanks for the reply I'm kind of new at this forum yes it is l579 s a k o Deluxe I went to the range and an old timer told me it was a Mauser Bolt it's in very good condition anyway I will send you some better pictures I've been getting some unreasonable offers lately on the net the ones I saw we're already sold I have seen prices of 10K am I around the ballpark? Thank you sir

 

[bigcountry4me]

I would appreciate what you think it's worth thank you

Carl, a gun show may be the worst place to expect a reasonable and fair evaluation regarding value. Everyone is trying to get “something for nothing”. The range is probably a bunch of decent folks who simply don’t have a clue regarding Sako rifles.

You have a reasonably difficult rifle to locate these days, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Value however, is completely based on condition, condition, condition.

 

[Spaher]

Not valuations again?
A word that appears simple but actually quite complex that usually results in disappointment when expectations are not met & then evolves into frustration, and on rare instances into anger towards the individual(s) responding to the request for their opinion.

For example see, “SAKO MODEL HP”.