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pdrdm

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I recently puchased a SAKO 300 WIN. mag serial #816960 the rifle has no model # or anny other markings ,very high grade walnut ,with no checkering, only a silver cap on the pistol grip ,the fore end has a angled gold line and the wood tip changes to a darker wood ( rose wood ?) the blueing is also very high luster and in like new condition .I would like to find out if it's possible the particular model ,year of production and aprox. value , has a leupold VX3 A/O scope on it .Thank you very much. PDRDM.
 
"very high grade walnut ,with no checkering, only a silver cap on the pistol grip"

This stock is not factory. You titled this thread "Sako AV". Is that because you got this number off of the receiver? If so, then it is a model A-V (A-5). However, the serial number sounds more like a later model than a A-V. Could it be a Model 75-V? They were not necessarily marked Model 75, but could only have a "V" for the particular action (long magnum) in the Model 75 series. Can you post a photo?
 
One more thing: If it is a model 75-V it will have three lugs on the front of the bolt and a bolt lift of only about 60 degrees. An A-V will have two opposed lugs on the front of the bolt and a conventional 90 degree bolt lift.
 
Yes, likely a late model transition gun, AV action but Tikka trigger group. These went to about 83xxxx. Still good gun, just lack the more desireable Sako #4 trigger assembly.

DAve
 
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Yes, likely a late model transition gun, AV action but Tikka trigger group. These went to about 83xxxx. Still good gun, just lack the more desireable Sako #4 trigger assembly.

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Hello, I came across this unfired like new Sako AV ser.#573XXX I have not found this exact one on any other sites. What I would like to know is, can anyone tell me about when it was made,worth and any background on this model? Also is this the deluxe model? The barrel channel is pretty tight you cannot get a dollar a 1/2 inch under the barrell is this typical of Sakos or should I have the barrel free floated? I have heard these guns shoot very well. Who makes a synthetic stocks for the AV with out breaking the bank?
 

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scp,
Yes, that is a Deluxe model. Look under the barrel on the bottom side in front of the fore end and see if there is an import stamp (have to really look). Otherwise check the barrel by the receiver or on the action for a Beretta import stamp. What caliber is it. I don't know much about the AV, but they are a more recent action. Looks very nice.
Most Sako wood stocks are tight to the barrel so this is common. I have free-floating barrels on some rifles, but to me all the hype is just that. I'm sure someone will argue this. I just think it's cheaper to make a free floating barrel and then pass it one to the consumer as worth the high price. I guess on some poorly made guns....never mind, I'm not going there. I've never had a problem with a tight stock, or better yet, a good bedded stock.
Hope this helps. Need just a little more info on your rifle. I'd say maybe a '90's production era.
S-A
 
scp,
I may have to eat my words on the date above. If that is a hang tag from the factory on there it seems to be a '78. That being the case there should be the Garcia import stamp under the barrel in front of the fore piece. Also I see it is a .30.06. I have one exactly like it in the pre-'72 L61R action that I picked up at a gun show (no sights, but new) for $800. I've seen them on Gun Broker for as much as $1,100 and some real dreamers look for more.
Sorry, I should have looked at the hang tag a little closer the first time.
S-A
 
There are no markings under the barrel in front of the fore piece. The tag around the trigger guard is hand written in pencil it does not appear to be a factory tag. I bought this from a freind whose FNL was a huge collecter and left him a few guns I also bought a Sauer 202 from him that I have shot already that shoots sub .5'' all day long. How well do the AV shoot,what kind of accuracy should I expect?
 
scp,
My.30-06 is a great shooter. I can usually get sub MOA depending on the ammunition. Most commercial BC's are well under .5. I've never shot all day (I know what you mean), but my Finnbear Deluxes have never failed me. I mentioned pre-72. Garcia got involved with the import of Sako to the US about then (commonly known as the beginning era of "transition" guns - one's with a mixture of anomalies in assembled rifles - confusion in serial numbers, and the like) and shortly thereafter started to go from 3 lug bolts to two lug bolts, and so on. If yours is a 2 lug bolt, it is a post 72. If you go to the www.sako.fi site, there is a tab for "older models" and they have some general production information there. Most people here seem to rely on the factory hang tag as the "born on" date. I don't have any hang tags at the moment, but I just bought another Sako which will come to my FFL next week that has the factory hang tag - then I'll get a feel for what this is all about.
Sako's are among the best crafted and accurate rifles made. I think there are some differences between the pre-'72 and modern Sako's that are now imported by Beretta. I think Beretta is over-pricing them for one thing. They don't offer much support for the older Sako products, and have passed that off to a company in the midwest called Brownell's. There's mixed reviews on that deal, too. Stay on the forum here and you will learn a lot, as I have.
Regards,
S-A
 
Hi SCP - Nice rifle you've got there.

I'm gonna guess it was made in '83. If you're going to shoot it, I wouldn't mess with bedding or floating the barrel. Sako really had the forend pressure thing figured out. Almost all of them shoot very well just the way they came out of the box. If you don't handload, you might several types of ammo to see what it likes best. Only if you couldn't get it shooting well would I consider floating/bedding. One of those things that can't be undone...

I understand Bell&Carlson make pretty inexpensive stocks for Sakos, but I don't have experience or opinion of good/bad.

Best luck, Dick
 
Yes it is a 2 lug bolt. Before I go and start messing with the barrel channel I plan on shooting it. Thanks for the info and any other info will be greatly appreciated. This is my first Sako. What is the differance between the AIII,AV and the next model? Other than the stock and ingraving on the floor plate is there any other differances in the deluxe vs. others?
 
scp,
The Deluxes have nicer stocks, better bluing, and the engraved floorplate and trigger guard. The differences in the models? Mostly when and who was at the wheel of the company/importing. A few design/action/trigger changes as they got newer as I understand it. Stainless and laminates as well.
I would definitely go out and shoot it first, and also take hayseed's advice about finding the round it likes. I think it will take you where you want to go without any mods. Mods may also decrease the value down the road if you have those inclinations. We all have our shooting styles and you just have to develope your new relationship with your Sako. My guess is that somewhere down the road you will end up with more than one.
S-A
 
Ok I found the markings it says Imported by Stoeger does this help with a timeline? Also does this decrease the value any? Was Stoeger just the importer or did the do any of the manufacturing?
 
Timeline is still the same - likely '83.

Firearms International, Garcia, and then Stoeger were all US importers of Sakos, and were not directly involved in manufacturing. It would be fair to say that they all wielded considerable influence with Sako, the manufacturer, in specifics of what would best appeal to US gun buyers. Beretta is different in that they now own Sako, as well as import them.

Think of them as Sako eras. While they are decidedly different from one another, I don't know that it would be corrrect to say one is better than another. Each era has it's own fan club here. Certainly each of us as individuals gravitates to a particular era or sub-era or model - that's just part of the fun.

Group hug - Dick
 
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