Sako-Anschutz

Discussion in 'Other firearms built on Sako actions' started by topgear, Jul 9, 2015.

  1. topgear

    topgear Sako-addicted

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    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    Wow! Thanks for posting, Topgear. These are the first really concise photos I've ever seen of the elusive Anschutz-Sako. I think they may be even scarcer than the Holland & Holland Sakos.
     
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    Confused, I know I'm easily befuddled but I've owned 3 1532's over the years in 222. Two had the double set trigger and all were Anschutz actions. Did Anschutz just arbitrarily throw in some L46 actions into the factory and say try these? What's the story on how these variants came to be?
     
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    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    I thought the model with the Anschutz-made action was a 1533, not 1532? But I have only a passing familiarity with Anschutz, so that may not be right.

    As the story goes (and it sounds plausible), when the .222 came out and was clearly becoming a very popular cartridge, Anschutz had no action which was suitable for the new cartridge. So they purchased Sako L46's to build their early .222's on. Subsequently, they designed and began building their own action for the .222 and ceased buying Sako L46's.

    This is much like Sako's own use of the FN Mauser for long action rounds prior to designing and building their own long action. In fact there's a long list of gun makers in Europe who used some other manufacturer's action to fill a hole (at least temporarily) in their own line.
     
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    topgear Sako-addicted

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    Another good find John. I have heard of Savage-Anschutz collaborations before, but not Sako-Anschutz.

    Just a suggestion - it might be worth saving and posting some of the photos as well as posting the link - the threads here on SCC will far outlive the adverts, and we know how highly SCC is viewed as a definitive reference on all things Sako. It would be a shame for someone to finally find a thread to shed light on a n obscure subject such as this only to be dissappointed that the advert (and therefore photos) no longer exist.

    Our internet connection is shaped at the moment (read slow) so could only downLoad the following photos.

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    Marcus
     
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    Stone,

    I didn't even know H&H played with Sako actions - if anyone has some photos another thread would be great!

    Marcus
     
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    Shared this pic with Topgear a while back. Probably still for sale at one of the locals.

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    topgear Sako-addicted

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    Yeah that's a good idea for sure.

    Deersako - that was a while back. I wonder if it has sold? You need to find me that L461 7.62x39 you saw in a shop once and send me a pic and phone number to buy :D
     
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    "I didn't even know H&H played with Sako actions - if anyone has some photos another thread would be great!" said Braxhunter

    In the early 70s Holland and Holland offered the "Shot and Regulated Rifle" resulting from "the co-operation between Holland and Holland and Sako of Finland".

    I handled one at the time and still have the pamphlet on it. It used either the L579 or the L61 barrelled action and was offered in five calibres-.243W; .270W; 7mm Remington Magnum .300 Winchester Magnum and .308W (7.62 NATO). All five calibres were regulated for a specified bullet weight with a 200 yard zero, although the rear sight was adjustable both laterally and vertically.

    Standard Sako dovetail grooves were retained, and "a specially selected German swing mount constructed specifically for this rifle" was also available in addition to the standard Sako mounts.

    Other than regulating it, and perhaps finishing the stock, H&H appear to have had little part in its actual manufacture as it "is stocked from selected wood to our specification"-possibly by Sako themselves?

    Shortly afterwards H&H switched their allegiance and began offering the "Holland and Holland Shot and Regulated Rifle" as "a result of co-operation between Holland and Holland and the famous F.F.V.-Husqvarna Company of Sweden"!

    Surprisingly this had a fixed rear sight, regulated for a specified bullet weight/distance, with a 100 yard zero for .243W and 200 yards for the remaining calibres. .308W wasn't offered, but 30-06 Springfield was available instead.


    Terry H.
     
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    I take it "probably still for sale" = optimistic asking price?

    Marcus
     
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    After Stone's post yesterday I did a Google search and found a few images.

    Perhaps I am missing something, but to me "regulating" a bolt action rifle just sounds like zeroing a scope - unless the work involved was to ensure that the chosen load shot to point of aim with the open sight setting corresponding to the selected shooting distance.

    Marcus
     
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    A disposal store in Cairns, around '96 '97. That's all I've got I'm afraid John.

    If it were more like opportunistic pricing, I'd have another hole in my pocket !
    From memory around 2.2k.
    I'll make a call for you if you like Marcus ?
     
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    Aaah you are too kind deersako, but I think I will give it a miss. Got enough on my hands for the moment.

    Marcus
     
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    I was scrolling through photos I have saved on my iPad and found this image - not sure where I got it from:

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    Marcus
     
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    Exactly what you would expect when the sire was Sako and the dam was Anschutz. A very high-bred hybrid.
     
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    Hi all. Very interesting to read up on the Sako-Anschutz rifles. I have a Sako-Anschutz 222 and have heard that it is fairly rare. Does anyone have some insight that they can share? 20161227_102408.jpg 20161227_102317.jpg
     

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    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    Thanks for the photos, Oliver!

    This rifle is perhaps among the scarcest of the "proprietary" Sakos -- rifles built on Sako actions and sold under a name other than Sako. It would be hard to say much more about your rifle, other than that Anschutz has always had a reputation for making very accurate rifles, so the Sako-Anschutz should be no exception. The Sako factory records are of no help since during that era Sako only recorded the date that an action-only was inspected, but not to whom or where it was shipped. So far as anyone knows, the Sako-Anschutz was only made in .222 Rem.
     
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    topgear Sako-addicted

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    Welcome to the forum Oliver. Not a lot more to add than what is above in this thread. I've seen a couple of them over the years but not in great numbers. It's interesting that they took the effort to modify the dovetails to standard .22 dovetails. Some photos below from the rifle in the 1st link. I would imagine they would be a great rifle. Anschutz used a lot of other manufactures actions for centrefire rifles such as krico and savage as well in the larger calibres.
     

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