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Removing Recoil Pad

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Does anyone know if it is possible to remove a recoil pad from a stock and install on another, also are the pads on all early sako stocks (actions) the same.
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Dave
 
Dave,

My very limited experience with replacing Sako pads suggests that they vary in invididual fittment and era more than by action length. Each was hand fitted, so between pads of the same era, some will be a little larger, some smaller. If by some miracle you might stumble across a new uninstalled pad, I expect it would be oversized for any butt and require fitting.

A late numbered L-57 I have uses the standard brown pad with white line commonly seen on the 60s. A transition-Garcia L-61 of mine, (which I believe retains the slightly slimmer stock) seems to maintain the same dimensions, but without the white line.

My understanding is that the very first pads used on Sakos were of a slightly different design. Perhaps Misako or Stonecreek or other more knowledgable members might weigh in on that.

As far as pad replacement, some very careful measurement may suggest if you have a likely candidate or not, although when you get right down to the toe, it's really hard to be sure. It can be a bear getting an original pad off in good shape - kind of depends on your patience, skill level, luck, and the condition of the pad. I guess anyone would hope for a seamless transition, like an original rifle would have had, but if your replacing a badly mushed out pad, an imperfect fit might still be an improvement.

Good luck, Dick
 
Dave- I only have experience with taking one pad off an old sako deluxe. The pad "was" in good shape before I took it off. It was glued to the thick black spacer that is fastened to the stock with 2 washered screws. I used an extendable blade razor knife to cut it awy from the black spacer. I could only get one stock screw to come out so that is why I did it the way I did. After refinishing, I used rubber cement to "glue" it back on. Now it looks just like crap. Thats exactly how I expected it to turn out after taking it off. I have quite a few sako deluxes and at least 90% of them rate 80 to 90 percent in the pad category. My original sako had a pad job 30 yrs. ago and it was professionally done. Sakos that have buttplates are easy to pad with several replacements on the market. I will not cut a stock down to get length of pull right. I got used to the rifle with a little longer length of pull and I have long arms so it isn't a problem for me. And if I sell the rifle, the original butt plate can easily go back on.- I won't try to do a deluxe again if I am trying to save the pad. I can't tell you about anything padded after 1968. Never messed with them.-Mike
 
Thank you Dick and Mike, for sharing your experience. The reason I was asking, was I possibly found a new Sako vixen stock with a pad, and was thinking if possible I would try it. I know the part numbers for all the butt plates are the same, but wasn't sure about the pads. They want a lot for the stock, but I thought maybe I could sell the wood after. Dick, I had not thought about all the stocks being different in thickness, so between that and Mikes experience, I will rethink this. The next question, should I leave my pad alone or go aftermarket? And if so, which one?
Thanks
Dave
 
Dave- The Limbsaver for tkka and 75 sakos is good (thick). Fit is fine for me with no modifications on early L579s and a Finnwolf. My favorite is the Decelerator pad that is about a half inch thick Model G2 03. Perfect for hunting and storing. Both are black. The thin one is good up to 30-06 recoil for me. Piece of cake for the 308 and 243 range. Might I mention I am recoil sensitive (don't like it ) but hunting conditions don't bother me at all, Just the range. Pachmayer is a nice choice if you are a color person. Grind to fit or sand to fit, check Brownells.- Mike
 
Ahh, yes. Recoil pads. The Achilles Heel of Sakos.

The rubber formulation in old Sako pads was apparently very inconsistent. I assume that the pads came from a suppllier rather than being made by Sako. At any rate, some of the simply turned to soft mush, while others became hard and brittle. If you are lucky, you have one with the "right" rubber formulation (don't know if this is the right amount of sulfur, curing, or what) and it has stayed healthy for the last 40 or so years.

As I have lamented here on this site before, it seems that there would be a huge market for high-quality Sako reproduction pads and someone would take advantage of it.

At any rate, the old Sako pads, as Mike alludes, were glued to the hard black rubber (or plastic) base that looks like a "black line spacer" between the pad and the stock. If you want to remove the entire assembly, it should come off with a screwdriver. I don't know, but would expect pads for the Vixen and Forrester Deluxes to be the same dimensions, just as are butt plates for the standards and mannlichers.. Of course, there were no butt plates, only pads, on the Finnbears, and I'm guessing that their pad is a little larger than those for the smaller actions.

Bottom line: There is a chance that you could remove the pad from said Vixen and reinstall it successfully on another Vixen or Forrester stock. But as hayseed says, these were most likely hand-done and could vary slightly in dimensions. Also, the value of the stock from which you removed it would be significantly reduced, so you might find the excersize somewhat expensive. I think I would simply have a professional install a nice looking aftermarket pad. Knowing what I do about Sako pads, I never discount a gun due to having a professionally installed replacement. I do give a gun a little extra value if it has a well-preserved original pad.

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Jim
 
Thanks Mike and Stonecreek as usual you both have been a wealth of knowledge. I don't think I will take the chance with a removal and install, just to much money involved for a guess. Mike, do you have a deluxe that has a limbsaver installed? If you do, is it to much to ask for a picture? Thank you both again, and Stonecreeks comment about value makes this an easier choice My pad is so hard it's not very comfortable to shoot.
L61r,
Your post is intriguing. Should I wait?
Dave
 
Desertrunner!

For the moment, I am exploring the possibilities for this to happen through a contact I have.
I have no idea if this will work out but I'm trying.
If, and I mean if, it's doable it will most likely be sometime in the future so you go ahead. If you dare that is!
I wouldn't!!

Jim
 
Dave- I don't put those on a deluxe. I will try sometime soon (a day or two) to get to a deluxe that is being repaired ( sat on but not by me) fitted with a limbsaver and get a pic on here or email it to you. It isn't a problem and should be very little effort- Mike
 
L61R,
I am looking forward to seeing how this turns out, I know it would make a big hit around here.
And no, I'm not brave enough to switch the pads.
Thanks
Dave
 
Dave- It may look close but you are the one that has to like it. What rifle are you wanting to put it on? I can send a picture of that pad on a Finnwolf dark stocked (original). The club member I got it from did a nice job fitting it. I have an original buttplate for it, but leave the pad on it in the vault.-Mike
 
Mike, I would like to put it on the deluxe I was thinking of trading, you can see the picture shows the pad is in pretty bad shape. With that said I don't want to hurt the value, and would like it to look original. To much to ask?
Dave
 
Desertrunner!
Try not to be too hopeful about this! ItxB4s a VERY LONG way to go before any of this could be happening!
But IxB4 ll let y'all know when I have more information!
Thanks!
Jim
 
Dave- here's what the pads look like on the respective rifles. The Limbsaver doesn't fit that deluxe like it does a standard forester stock. The Finnwolf is sporting a Pachmayer.-Mike
 
Mike,
The pictures are great, thank you, the pad on the Finnwolf looks like a suitable replacement. Is the pad on the 244 on gunbroker the same?
Dave
 
Dave- Yes, I believe it is. By the way, I tried to get the pad and spacer off a 1963 Vintage today and it would not budge. The two screws came out just fine.The spacer on the pictured deluxe wouldn't come off either. Gentle persuasion didn't help. I may try a hot hairdryer on the pictured stock. Can't hurt since I use that for a hunting stock now.-Mike
 

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