P54 Questions about the 17 HM2

Discussion in 'Sako Rimfires and Small Action Rifles' started by Timothy Yates, Jul 27, 2019.

  1. Timothy Yates

    Timothy Yates Active Member

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    I am thinking about getting a 17 HM2 barrel for another Finnfire Range. Before I did something like that I wanted to get peoples first hand opinion about the caliber, likes and dislikes and the Liljia barrel compared to the factory barrel.

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    Tim

     

  2. Dave Buffington

    Dave Buffington Well-Known Member

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    Hi Tim!

    My apologies for jumping into an old thread, but I think I can still contribute a bit ...

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    From my experience with several 17HM2 rifles -- Browning, Kimber, Savage and Sako (a Quad with both factory and Lilja barrels) -- is an excellent small game cartridge and has the potential to be an excellent target cartridge.

    As the specs indicate, it's a fast, flat shooting cartridge that eliminates the need to make mental bullet drop calculations within its effective range. The limit for reaching top accuracy is the lack of any variety of ammo. All currently available 17HM2 ammo is made by CCI whether its sold as CCI, Hornady or Federal. There is some debate over whether those brands are loaded to different specifications, but I've seen little or no difference between loads with the same specifications.

    Is very good accuracy possible? Absolutely. See the targets above, but you just don't have dozens and dozens of loads to choose from, as you do with 22LR.

    As for the difference between the factory and Lilja barrels? Again, I have both, and I would rate the Lilja barrel as slightly more accurate.

    Enjoy!
    Dave
     
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    Just found targets from the Kimber ...

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  4. dhv

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    Great little round. Deserves to be more popular than it is.
    When I bought my Quad 4 barrel set, I stuck on the 17M2 to have a play thinking it would come off after 1 box of ammo and never see the light of day again. Suffice to say it has never come off. Without doubt THE best rabbit round going. Pity ammo supply seems to be a little spasmodic, at least in Oz.
     
  5. JG26_Irish

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    I have a Quad but do not own the 17M2 bbl for it yet, but am in the process of acquiring one for my Quad from Lilja. I also have a pair of identical Sav MkII's with one in 22lr and one in 17M2. I am a big fan of the 17M2 rd as a hunting rd. It is fast, flat and accurate. From a bench at 50y & 100y it is capable of slightly under 1moa accuracy. In the field shooting off hand or from a monopod it is a point blank rifle out to 80y or more on squirrels, rabbits or varmints. It is my favorite rimfire hunter. The Sav in 17M2 is about as accurate as the other Sav in 22lr even if I use my best match ammo from Lapua or Eley in the 22. I am limited to the new Hornady ammo and some very old Eley ammo for the 17Mach2. The Eley is slightly more accurate and often will put four shots into one ragged hole but always has one that drops low as a flyer. I chalk that up to the ammo being 15yrs old. The Hornady does not group quite as well but seems to be more consistent.

    I know that most say the Mach2 starts to go trans sonic at about 200y downrange which should begin to mess with the accuracy. That said, I have done plinking with it out to 230y and did not feel it was opening up too much. It will hit small shards of clay birds at that distance which are about 2-3" in size. By then the bullet is however, dropping much more than the 17HMR would but much less than the 22lr does. It is a trade-off. I can hit a rabbit at that distance prone from a rest on calm days with confidence. I can hit squirrels standing from a pod out to about 80y but they do not hold still as long as the bunnies do.

    On the Quad, I cannot compare the Lilja bbl to the factory bbl, but my Lilja bbl on my Quad in 22lr is supremely accurate. I shoot it in sporter BR matches against VuDoo, Win 52 and Annie 54 repeaters and win with the Quad more than I have lost. I plan to get the Lilja bbl in 17 when it is available. Carsen offered to make one for me then winter after the holidays. I could not find a factory bbl for sale in the USA. My Quad was one of the special edition runs from euroOptic and did not come with the four bbl set.
     

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