Origin of current Sako brass?

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  1. stonecreek

    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    I'm wondering if anyone knows of the source of the brass used in Sako's current line of ammunition.

    The reason I ask is that I ran across an ad from an individual who lists a large quantity of .300 Win Mag ammunition as being "made by Sako in Norma brass".

    I know that Sako used to make its own brass, and I assumed that they still do. However, it is certainly possible that they may be outsourcing as many manufacturers do. Still, I'm wondering if the seller is accurate in stating that the brass is from Norma. After all, Norma is located in Western Sweden near the small town of Amotfors across the Baltic Sea from Sako in Finland. It would make more sense, if Sako were not using its own brass, to source from Lapua, which is nearby.

    So, does anyone know?

     

  2. paulsonconstruction

    paulsonconstruction Sako-addicted

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    From all indications on Sako's website, they make their own brass. They rave about it's quality & have pictures , magnified thru a microscope, showing the smaller grain structure of their brass, compare to others, & claims how that enhances it's reloadability. At least from their advertising, it appears they make all their own brass & bullets, but I have no way of confirming that. Lapua, Vitavhouri & Berger Bullets are all owned by the same company, so I'm not sure how outsourcing to a direct competitor would work out. I do know that Norma makes Nosler brass, so a Sako connection could also be possible. After watching the film on the Sako site about their ammo making process, I'm leaning towards Sako still making their own brass. They could outsource certain calibers, say to Norma, for rounds they aren't tooled up for or to meet order demands, as well.
     
  3. L61R

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    Yes, they do their own brass, and I watched the process last summer when I was at the factory.

    But I can’t say with one hundred percent they make all calibers.

    Will check with my contact ASAP.

    Jim
     
  4. stonecreek

    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    Thanks, guys. You've confirmed what I thought.

    Seems like a lot of people when trying to sell something will simply say something about it which they think makes it attractive -- regardless of whether it has any basis in fact. Norma brass has a reputation as being of high quality, so I guess the guy just threw that out there thinking it made the ammunition more attractive. (By the way, the only Norma brass I've used was definitely softer in the head than is typical and allowed the primer pockets to expand with loads which were otherwise sustainable in other makes of brass.)

    At any rate, unless as Paulson speculates Sako for some reason needed to temporarily outsource brass of a particular caliber, then my best guess is that it is all "home grown". (Another "by the way" -- all of the Sako brass I've used is top notch and tolerates full power loads for many cycles. Given the choice I would take Sako -- and Lapua -- brass over Norma every time.)
     
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    I have 2 boxes of sako brass for 300win mag (50 cases per box) that were purchased new approx 12 months ago. On average the cases in 1 box weigh 46 grains more than the cases in the 2nd box which are 46grains lighter.... You can actually feel the weight difference in your hand.....
     
  6. stonecreek

    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    I wrote to the seller of the ammunition and asked him where the information that the brass was from Norma came from. His response was

    Stonecreek,
    When I bought this ammo from Beretta, I called and asked them. I am repeating what they told me.

    Whether whoever responded on behalf of "Beretta" knew what he was talking about is another question, but the seller is obviously working with the best information he has.
     
  7. kirkbridgershooters

    kirkbridgershooters Well-Known Member

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    I would find it hard to believe that Sako brass is Norma. I have had both at the same the same time shooting my 6mm PPC and found the Norma to be better brass.

    I am now shooting 400 rounds of Norma 22PPC and 50 Sako, and so far am planning on using both as long as the Sako keeps up with the Norma.
     
  8. stonecreek

    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    Let me specify that it's be a long time since I've used any Norma brass and the issue with soft heads may be a thing of the past. Shooters say very positive things about the current Norma brass.
     

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