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The Royals like having subjects and repressing them enough to prevent fighting back. Sad but true.5280sakonut - I sometimes think the regultions in the UK are way too strict however given the size of the UK compared to the USA maybe it has done us a favour over the years with far less deer calibre rifles in circulation.
cands, I have read in a few places that the majority of factory 6.5x55 is "detuned" as it could be fired in the 1,000's of ex WW2 rifles which wouldn't take modern pressures. As you can imagine I am very keen to see what my own loads can achieve.
The following is a piece I put together for another forum which will give you an idea of what the UK deer qualifications entail:
The UK has some of the strictest gun control laws anywhere in the world, I thought you might like to hear what we go through to gain deer hunting qualifications. The award is in two parts DSC1 & DSC2, a hunter registers to take the predominently theory based part 1 with an approved centre receiving an inch thich "letter" size manual which he/she then has to learn. Examples of subjects covered are identification (so no horses !!) including winter and summer pelage (coat) juvenile and adult for the six species seen in the UK including the shooting season - and England, Ireland & Scotland are all different. Ballistics including appropriate calibres, velocities and bullet weights. Deer diseases especially notifiable ones such as TB and Foot & Mouth and of course "gralloching" (gutting). Meat handling, storage, equipment and putting meat into the food chain. Safe gunhandling and assessing shot safety (so no horses !!). You can take up to two years to learn the manual but when you do take the exam (over two days) the minimum pass rate is 80%, the gun safety pass rate is 100% !! There is finally a shooting test, 3 shots through a 4 inch target at 100yds, then 2 through the 6" kill zone (heart/lungs) of a Roe deer target at 100 yds, then 2 more seated or lying at 75yds, then the last 2 standing at 50yds. OK not difficult but pull a shot and you start the whole shooting test again three attempts maximum then you fail. The deer recogition was no walk in the park, Powerpoint presentation 20 randon deer 80% pass rate required - identify species & sex, adult & juvenile 20 seconds on each. So that's DSC1
DSC2 is the practical side of things and has to be witnessed by an Approved Witness. Stalk (yes that's what we call deer hunting) 3 deer and after identifying they are in season correctly shoot (so no Texas heart shots), perform a post mortum gralloch i.e. check for diseases plus examine all of the lymphatic system, heart, lungs, liver etc. After each successful stalk write up the procedure detailing what you did do what you didn't do and why, also answering a bank of question posed by and documented by your Approved Witness. The information goes into a portfolio and when complete goes to an assessor who may ask more questions of you or your Approved Witness, It then goes to a second assessor who again can questions only then does he decide whether you have earned your DSC2 or whether he will decide to ask you to do further kills. The portfolio finally goes to the UK DMQ (Deer Management Qualifications) and they can randomly check further any portfolio they wish however at this stage you have normally passed the exam - Phew !!
I wonder how many US hunters would go through that lot ?? Although it isn't yet mandatory more and more UK shoot managers are insisting on DSC1 some DSC2 also. It is generally felt it will be required in the not too distant future for a Police deer rifle permit.
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Dang, didn’t check the date. As for your last question: What about you? Will likely be buying two Sakos in the near future to add to a fairly sizeable deluxe rifle collection(85 and a TRG22). So I figured I’d join. I’ll avoid mocking the foolhardy questions and comments when the dumb posts waste my time sifting through them. Better yet, I should just not engage this forum from the get go. Fair well. You apparently take issue with necroposts- lol.So welcome to the forum. Not picking on you but please be advised, the thread you replied to is about 13 years old. The OP was last seen in 2011. 56 then, which now makes them something like 69ish. We have lots of great folks here from the UK who simply want to share Sako related stuff. What about you?
It's actually "farewell". Derived from the Old English word "fare", meaning to travel or journey. It's a polite expression used when "amicably" departing. So, not only did you mispell it, you misused it! Bye!Dang, didn’t check the date. As for your last question: What about you? Will likely be buying two Sakos in the near future to add to a fairly sizeable deluxe rifle collection(85 and a TRG22). So I figured I’d join. I’ll avoid mocking the foolhardy questions and comments when the dumb posts waste my time sifting through them. Better yet, I should just not engage this forum from the get go. Fair well. You apparently take issue with necroposts- lol.
Ahhh no I didn’t.- lmao. I always wish everyone well in their future. On the other hand - whatever.lolIt's actually "farewell". Derived from the Old English word "fare", meaning to travel or journey. It's a polite expression used when "amicably" departing. So, not only did you mispell it, you misused it! Bye!