sakotex
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Does anyone have any loading and hunting experience with this bullet in 243win or 244/6mm rem? Hornady book says it's a match bullet but is excellent on thin-skinned animals.
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Loading/Hunting with 105gr Amax In 243win or 244/6mm rem
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Haven't used it in this caliber, but have in the 140gr - .264 and the 155gr -.308. Both were loaded to velocities at or under 2650fps, and both did a remarkable job on deer and hogs.
That said, I loaded the 140gr for my daughters 6.5x55, and since it was an older 96 action I kept the loads o the light side. I tried them out on the hogs first figuring that if they would handle them, then a deer would be a piece of cake. I shot them out to over 350yds and in ever instance they did all one cold ask for. The daughter used them for several years, and took a couple of nice deer off our farm.
With the 155's it was a similar story on the performance. The issue here was the barrel length on my short Ruger is only 16.5" to start with. The initial loads I tried were very accurate and since I was using them in river bottom terrain, I wasn't looking for top end velocity anyway. They were used on several hogs ranging in weight up to around 250 pounds, and made short work of them all. I did have an instance or two with them making a bigger mess than i wanted, but it wasn't a deal breaker, they did what they were asked to do and put the hogs on the ground on the spot.
Veering a bit off topic, I can tell you that the Hornady BTSP has shot very well in my friends rifles. His family has several of the Forrester's, and were the main reason I picked mine up. All of theirs will simply drill those bullets into a tiny little bug hole, time and time again.
With mine I have been playing a bit with the older Nosler Solid Base, and they have shown a bit of promise. Once I get finished relieving the stock a bit, I should have it nailed down. this was a bit of development I did using the Hodgdon Hybrid 100V powder,
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Good luck with the 105's, and if you get a load worked out be sure to post back up with the results.
Mike / TX
That said, I loaded the 140gr for my daughters 6.5x55, and since it was an older 96 action I kept the loads o the light side. I tried them out on the hogs first figuring that if they would handle them, then a deer would be a piece of cake. I shot them out to over 350yds and in ever instance they did all one cold ask for. The daughter used them for several years, and took a couple of nice deer off our farm.
With the 155's it was a similar story on the performance. The issue here was the barrel length on my short Ruger is only 16.5" to start with. The initial loads I tried were very accurate and since I was using them in river bottom terrain, I wasn't looking for top end velocity anyway. They were used on several hogs ranging in weight up to around 250 pounds, and made short work of them all. I did have an instance or two with them making a bigger mess than i wanted, but it wasn't a deal breaker, they did what they were asked to do and put the hogs on the ground on the spot.
Veering a bit off topic, I can tell you that the Hornady BTSP has shot very well in my friends rifles. His family has several of the Forrester's, and were the main reason I picked mine up. All of theirs will simply drill those bullets into a tiny little bug hole, time and time again.
With mine I have been playing a bit with the older Nosler Solid Base, and they have shown a bit of promise. Once I get finished relieving the stock a bit, I should have it nailed down. this was a bit of development I did using the Hodgdon Hybrid 100V powder,
Good luck with the 105's, and if you get a load worked out be sure to post back up with the results.
Mike / TX
sakotex
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Hi Mike-
Thanks for the post and Welcome to the Forum. Alway glad to see more Texans join in. And thanks for sharing your Amax experiences. I'm particularly pleased to hear that the bullets seem to expand adequately at modest velocities that will be available to me in 6mm. Another member uses the 105's on long range chucks, but, it looks like I may have to have something built specifically with an 8" twist barrel to get a definitive answer on the 6mm version on deer and antelope. In the meantime, I'm exploring the Barnes 85gr TSX BT. All the best.
Thanks for the post and Welcome to the Forum. Alway glad to see more Texans join in. And thanks for sharing your Amax experiences. I'm particularly pleased to hear that the bullets seem to expand adequately at modest velocities that will be available to me in 6mm. Another member uses the 105's on long range chucks, but, it looks like I may have to have something built specifically with an 8" twist barrel to get a definitive answer on the 6mm version on deer and antelope. In the meantime, I'm exploring the Barnes 85gr TSX BT. All the best.
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Mike -- those old Nosler Solid Base bullets may be one of the best bullets ever made. They are consistently accurate for me, and their terminal performance is uncannily similar to that of the much vaunted Partition. In fact, I believe that one reason Nosler dropped them from their line is that too many people were buying them to use instead of the much more expensive Partitions.
As you probably know, Nosler still makes a run of them every now and then to supply to ammunition manufacturers (who do not identify the bullet as a Nosler). Sometimes you can purchase manufacturing overruns from the Nosler Shooter's Pro Shop as seconds.
I use them exclusively in my deer loads for .243 (100 grain) and .270 (130 grain). I have loaded the .224/60 grain for my grandson's .223 for deer (he's taken two bucks with a single shot each), and have a few in 7mm and .30 caliber stashed in the back of the reloading cabinet.
I have no complaints about any of Nosler's current offerings (except maybe their no-lead bullets), but I think their old Solid Base was one fine bullet.
Sorry for hijacking your thread, Sakotex, but I just had to say something once the Solid Base was mentioned!
As you probably know, Nosler still makes a run of them every now and then to supply to ammunition manufacturers (who do not identify the bullet as a Nosler). Sometimes you can purchase manufacturing overruns from the Nosler Shooter's Pro Shop as seconds.
I use them exclusively in my deer loads for .243 (100 grain) and .270 (130 grain). I have loaded the .224/60 grain for my grandson's .223 for deer (he's taken two bucks with a single shot each), and have a few in 7mm and .30 caliber stashed in the back of the reloading cabinet.
I have no complaints about any of Nosler's current offerings (except maybe their no-lead bullets), but I think their old Solid Base was one fine bullet.
Sorry for hijacking your thread, Sakotex, but I just had to say something once the Solid Base was mentioned!
cmjr
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I've got a 6mmAI with a 8" twist that I shoot in 4-600 fun shoots in the North Texas area, mainly shot a 105 Berger in it. When I had a hard time getting them I tried the 105 Amax, accuracy was not as good as the Berger but still good. I mention this because in my battles against the Hog Hoards at my place in southern OK I've drilled several feral pigs with it. I say drilled because that's what it did. Head shots resulted in DRT, but lung shots were always runoffs. On small porkers 50-80lbs, unless it hit a rib it would pass through, exit was a little larger, about the size of a nickle. More importantly you didn't have the hydrostatic shock that something a little smaller at speed would provide. It would kill them, ie you could track them into the scrub and find them but,.... first time you walk up on a 250lb lung shot boar that's still alive you won't do that anymore..at least I don't. Let me qualify this by saying I'm shooting mine at 250yds+. I see the Amax as a good long distance high BC bullet at a good cost compared to a Berger 105 or 107SMK. The feral pig in my signature pic was shot with a 6mmAI 1-12" Sako L579 and a Sierra 70gr BK at 4000fps, at 300yds, it was a lung shot, she spun and dropped. I think the 105 Amax might work at shorter ranges if you could drive it at speed, 3000fps+, but out of a std 6mm your brass won't last long.
