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L61R date?

Discussion in 'Sako Long/Magnum Actions' started by ibtexex, Jan 9, 2023.

  1. ibtexex

    ibtexex Member

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    Hello all,


    I'm a long time member and quite frequent reader. I am having trouble sourcing a manufacturer date for an inherited rifle.. Finnbear L61R 30.06 #82110.. Any advise or direction would be greatly appreciated.
     

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    stonecreek SCC Secretary SCC Board Member

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    Sako didn't use its serial numbers sequentially, but those between roughly 50,000 and 100,000 were primarily turned out during the "Garcia" period, which would put them in the mid-1970's.

    Some in this numerical sequence had the third (rear or "safety") lug just in front of the bolt handle while some did not; others had the cut in the receiver for the third lug but the lug was absent from the bolt; still others had neither the lug nor the cut for it. If the bolt did not have the third lug then it was typically found with an anti-torque pin on the left rear of the bolt.
     
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    Thanks for that review Mr stonecreek. Learn something new every day. Yes, the dreaded "anti-torque pin".
     
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    Thank you Sir! When able, and if I can figure it out, I will post some pictures. Really appreciate in the information
     
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    May I inquire about another L61R in 25.06 #66094. Stamp on bottom of barrel “Garcia Sporting Arms Utah, DC.
     
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    The same parameters as with #82110 apply. However, the very first .25-06's chambered came in 1971, so it has to be that late or later. There is record of only a single .25-06 imported by Firearms International.
     
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    Thank you Sir! Both appear to be 3-lug, so that is fascinating in itself. Since a kid, I have been enamored with Sako's history (due to my late father). Like others, I wish their bookkeeping was better. Inherited rifles carry a special meaning
     
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    Mr. Stonecreek; I have a head-scratcher.. Sako Finnbear "AV" mannlicher in 375 H&H. The "AV" is throwing me off on understanding more. I am unable to find trackable or details..

    What say you?
     
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    Sako changed the marketing designation of their long action (L61R) to "AIII" in the late 1970's, and shortly thereafter changed the "AIII" to "AV". The only signficant difference in the AIII and AV is the length of the rear action tang. All Sako long actions (L61R, AIII, AV, etc.) were referred to as "Finnbears", although that name was only stamped on the earlier versions.

    Bottom line: A Sako AV is the 1980's version of the Finnbear.
     
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    Hello;

    Since people are talking about the Sako L61R,
    I happen to have found and purchased a L61R Action only bright blue high gloss finish new in box with three lug bolt serial # 359xx
    Any information about time frame when it was manufactured etc would be most appreciated.

    kind Regards
    Browtinehunter
     
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    paulsonconstruction Sako-addicted

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    Just click on Factory Records Service in the black bar at the top of this page and your dreams will come true!!
     
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    Hello;

    Since people are talking about the Sako L61R,
    I happen to have found and purchased a L61R Action only bright blue high gloss finish new in box with three lug bolt serial # 359xx
    Any information about time frame when it was manufactured etc would be most appreciated.

    kind Regards
    Browtinehunter
     
  13. Old Hippie

    Old Hippie Formerly known as bloorooster

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    A Sako action numbered in that range is from ‘65-‘66 IMO
     
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    Looking at some of my L61R's to provide an idea of when your L61R ser. 359xx Finnbear may have been made, my snap shot of a few rifles are as follows.

    Inspected Date - Serial Number
    June 1965 - 1368x
    February 1966 - 1360x
    October 1966 - 257xx
    September 1968 - 329xx
    ? ? - 395xx (have not requested date made)
    August 1970 - 44838
    December 1971 - 561xx

    Using just my rifles to make a guess of when your rifle was produced, maybe in 1968 or 1969. I recommend you follow Paulson's advice for something a lot better than my guess.
     
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    Here is the L61R that I was asking about Sako originally box with wax paper that it was wrapped in
    9854596D-339F-4844-BF94-A75412DEF320.jpeg
    Thanks for taking the time and answering my question
     
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    Action only and box that it came !
    Not a complete rifle deluxe finish
     
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    Well contacted the factory records and they informed me that my L61R ser. 359xx was inspected 13 June 1968. It was listed as an action-only with a magnum bolt face.
     
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