Short Actions L46 .218 Bee Mannlicher on GB

Discussion in 'Sako Short Actions' started by stonecreek, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. stonecreek

    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/858543813

    This has just appeared on Gunbroker. If the seller wants to get the most for it he needs to post some better photos, however from what you can see it looks to be in decent shape. Just a five day auction, too.


    (I do not know the seller or have any knowledge of the gun. Just posted here because I know that everybody likes to watch these rare ones!)
     

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    Your right Steve. If your asking that sort of money you better have some really nice photo's.
     
  3. ricksengines

    ricksengines Sako-addicted

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    There are also two Full Stock Hornets on Proxibid. Both look ok but Proxibid is not noted for good pics.

    rick
     
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    The auction ended.wonder what happened.
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  5. stonecreek

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    I have no knowledge, but typically someone will contact the seller and offer a cash price or a cash + trade. If there are no bids then the seller can end the auction early. That way the seller gets to avoid the (rather steep) Gunbroker commissions. Also, it may have been listed (counter to Gunbroker rules) on some other site at a fixed price. I've got to think that someone really wanted that rifle and didn't want to risk its going into the stratosphere in a bidding war with another guy with deep pockets. Too bad, I would have loved to have seen where the bidding might have taken it.
     
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    kirkbridgershooters Well-Known Member

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    Gunbroker fees are not hidden, they tell you up front what their price is. I have made plenty of deals with buyers that wanted to go outside the boundaries of Gunbroker to save the fees, but in fairness to Gunbroker, I have agreed with the buyer to adjust the buy it now price and not cut Gunbroker out of their commission.

    At some point it has to be realized that the buyer and seller would not have been put together and as such should not deny Gunbroker their commission...
     
  7. stonecreek

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    I didn't say they were hidden and offered neither praise nor condemnation for those who might get around the commission by selling outside of Gunbroker.

    Like other online middleman platforms such as Amazon or eBay, Gunbroker charges what their experience tells them the market will bear and their commissions are somewhat higher than they were originally. In my opinion they have become "steep". Steep enough, in fact, that sellers have a significant financial incentive to go around them if they can, particularly on the high-dollar items like the one that's the subject of this thread. This is unfortunate.

    What seems to be happening more and more is that people list guns on Gunbroker at above-market prices then let the listing "ride" for week after week, since it is free to do so. They are apparently waiting for someone to contact them with a market-level offer, at which point they end the auction and sell directly. The net result is that Gunbroker only gets the listing fee and its usefulness as a market discovery tool is somewhat diminished. I suspect that if they would lower their commission fees a bit and get rid of their "eternal listing" option that everyone would be better served. However, not being privy to the huge amount of proprietary information they have, my opinion is obviously somewhat speculative.

    By the way, something screwy is going on with this auction on the Bee. It now shows that it has been "relisted". But if you click on the relisted box it takes you to an auction by the same seller of an entirely different gun.
     
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    kirkbridgershooters Well-Known Member

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    No reflection on your statement, I was just clarifying the abuse that does exist on Gunbroker. 3-4% does add up, but nothing close to what the big auction houses gouge when they will get 15-25% for their assistance and they get that from both the buyer and seller.

    Many times I have had guys offer to buy outside of Gunbroker and that is where I have told them I will adjust the “buy it now” price to our agree price and compensate Gunbroker accordingly...
     

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