How to remove stubborn Redfield bases.

Discussion in 'Tips and Tricks for gunsmithing your own Sako' started by Charles Witt, Jan 24, 2021.

  1. Charles Witt

    Charles Witt Well-Known Member

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    Hi all.

    I was looking at a Dickson Howa Golden Bear at a LGS today and it had Redfield bases with the intregal peep sight and a cheap scope mounted. I worked out a deal to purchase, but asked if they would please check the top of the receiver for drill holes (I learned this the hard way on an otherwise gorgeous 243 Bofors Deluxe). They have a "smith" on site and they agreed. I watched in horror as the "smith" and the shop owner pinned the gun down on a workbench (there was not a vise in sight) and proceeded to muscle the screws out of the rings with a Dewalt screwdriver. They put scratches on the scope and rings buggered the screws (which looked pretty good, but not perfect, before they started). They managed to get 6 of the eight screws out, but just couldn't get the last 2 to budge. I decided to walk around the store and circle back. Upon my return, I saw sparks flying! The shop owner had taken over the project and was using a mini angle grinder to cut off the ring. I asked him if he had destroyed the rings, and he confirmed that he had destroyed them when drilled out the screws with the impact driver! Sheesh! The set screws backed out easily and he stated hitting the bases with a mallet, but after a few minutes, pronounced them "stuck". He said "if you still want to buy the gun, that's cool." I told him that I would think about it and let them know.

    I can see through the ring holes and the set screw holes in the bases well enough to be pretty certain that the receiver has not been drilled. I'm considering going back in tomorrow to save the gun, but wanted to know if anyone had a method that they would share for getting these bases off.


    Thank you!
     

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    CVCOBRA1 Well-Known Member

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    You would never know, but it might have been loctited. Did they, the "smith's", even try a little heat?. More like a monkey wrench it sounds like. Shame on them. Good luck on the purchase though.
     
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    Remove barrelled-action from stock!!

    Set-up in bench vice. Heavily tape all "exposed" blued surfaces.

    Get, or fabricate, a 1" wide, thick brass punch/chisel. Drive base to rear(note: wrap towel around action, behind base.........to keep base from flying to parts unknown.:) )

    Set-up is everything...........proceed thoughtfully and CAREFULLY!!......as so-far, the gun store plumbers have NOT!!

    Hope this helps.
     
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    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    Sounds like someone with an IQ somewhere in the "dozens" loctite-d the bases. Kevin's description of removal is a good one, but I fear it's going to take heat to get the goo to turn loose.

    Why not leave the bases in place and simply use the appropriate Redfield-style rings to mount an appropriate scope? It hardly matters what condition the tops of the dovetails are in if the bases remain in place if, hopefully, the gorilla tactics of the store personnel haven't scarred the bases.
     
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    Charles Witt Well-Known Member

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    I would not be surprised if there was Loctite all over bases. There was definitely dried "goop" visible where the screws were removed from the rings.
    What is the best way to add some heat?
     
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    paulsonconstruction Sako-addicted

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    Carefully!! Not trying to be rude & don't take this the wrong way, but if you have to ask that question it's best you take the rifle to a competent gunsmith & pay the nominal fee to get the bases removed. As with nearly anything, without the proper tools & know how results are usually poor. Just my two cents!
     
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    Charles Witt Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't agree more. competent smith is the way to go for me.
     
  8. kevinlg

    kevinlg Well-Known Member

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    Charles,

    Is the goop.....red or blue? Better hope it's blue!!

    I've an old hairdryer(my wife has trashed sooooo many over the years.....) that I "modified" years ago. It works great on "blue" stuff.

    Red is another story. It takes about 500 degrees F, for a couple of minutes.

    For a nice blued Sako receiver......I don't think so. At least not at first......with the exception of a good soldering iron for screws.

    Which type ya got??

    BTW......NO type of loctite gets near one of my Sakos. Just me, again.

    Then there's the subject of mechanically cutting the bases off. Maybe later...
     
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    The goop is so old, it just looks white and flaky. I do not see any thing on the bases, but it could be hidden underneath. I think I may pass on this one, unless they want to make me a really nice offer to take the risk and hassle. I'll post pictures if I get it.
     
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    stonecreek SCC Secretary Forum Owner SCC Board Member

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    Charles, you don't say what price you're looking at on the gun itself, but if it's cheap enough it might be a bargain, regardless. I've owned several of the D-H rifles and even took one with me to Africa as a back-up gun. They are typically good shooters and, being from an era when rifles were rifles, are generally a notch above the pedestrian Savchestertons found on most store shelves today. So, even if the mount bases are a detraction, don't give up on the rifle if the price is right.
     
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    $600. Standard grade, but in really good condition. Nice wood.
     
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    Like Stone said.......

    Also, if possible, get and post some cell phone close-up pics.............before you buy.

    Kind of a win-win.....at no cost. :)
     
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