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Hey! l461 varmint owner

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Isaac

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Hey I’ve recently acquired a l461 vixen varmint (wide forend, I assume this makes it a varmint model?), rebarreled in .204 ruger with a very early Kahles 8x56. Serial number is 86,5xx From what research I’ve done I think it’s a “pre Garcia” era sako. If anyone could shed some light on this rifle it would be muchly appreciated! I think someone has had an attempt at refinishing the stock, the for end has full wrap around checkering, is this original? I plan to have the rifle fully restored over time. Thanks fellow Sako enthusiasts!

On a side note, I’m after a Tikka M55 .223 bolt and magazine in Australia if anyone can help me.


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Hey I’ve recently acquired a l461 vixen varmint (wide forend, I assume this makes it a varmint model?), rebarreled in .204 ruger with a very early Kahles 8x56. Serial number is 86,5xx From what research I’ve done I think it’s a “pre Garcia” era sako. If anyone could shed some light on this rifle it would be muchly appreciated! I think someone has had an attempt at refinishing the stock, the for end has full wrap around checkering, is this original? I plan to have the rifle fully restored over time. Thanks fellow Sako enthusiasts!

On a side note, I’m after a Tikka M55 .223 bolt and magazine in Australia if anyone can help me.


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pm me regarding tikka parts
 
From what research I’ve done I think it’s a “pre Garcia” era sako.
All Sakos originally imported to Australia are "pre-Garcia" since Garcia was never the importer there. Yours is from the pre-1968 (roughly) era as evidenced by its "s"-shaped floorplate release. I has the "Australian" bolt shroud, which fully encompasses the striker when the bolt is cocked, making it less subject to a theoretical blow to the striker accidentally firing the rifle. This was found exclusively on Sakos imported to Australia so far as anyone has been able to determine. The stock is original and yes, the forearm checkering did extend all the way around including the bottom. I don't think I've ever seen a Sako stock on which the checkering on the grip was worn almost completely down the the wood underneath. Shows it has had lots of use in the field and it may be on more than just its second barrel. However, I like the "character" that its use shows -- always satisfying to see a rifle that has been utilized to its fullest.
 
All Sakos originally imported to Australia are "pre-Garcia" since Garcia was never the importer there. Yours is from the pre-1968 (roughly) era as evidenced by its "s"-shaped floorplate release. I has the "Australian" bolt shroud, which fully encompasses the striker when the bolt is cocked, making it less subject to a theoretical blow to the striker accidentally firing the rifle. This was found exclusively on Sakos imported to Australia so far as anyone has been able to determine. The stock is original and yes, the forearm checkering did extend all the way around including the bottom. I don't think I've ever seen a Sako stock on which the checkering on the grip was worn almost completely down the the wood underneath. Shows it has had lots of use in the field and it may be on more than just its second barrel. However, I like the "character" that its use shows -- always satisfying to see a rifle that has been utilized to its fullest.

hey stonecreek, thanks for your reply some great info in there. Yes this rifle has done some work I was told by the previous owner it’s on its 4th barrel. Still young! I used to offsider for a old roo shooter at Charleville Qld that had an old L461 in .222 mag and that rifle was on its 11th barrel with all original parts in working order. All his rifles had a 8x56 Kahles on top. Ever since then I’ve wanted one in my safe but found it hard to get one with the varmint stock. Can’t wait to have it restored back to its former glory!
 
G’day Isaac, it’s had a good life that’s for sure.
Who will do the stock work etc. for you ?
 
G’day Isaac, it’s had a good life that’s for sure.
Who will do the stock work etc. for you ?

Deersako

I’m not sure, I don’t actually know anyone that does that kind of work. I would like somone who has experience with these rifles to do the job so they can get the checkering correct. I want it to look absolutely original. Do you have someone in mind?
Thanks Isaac
 
Deersako

I’m not sure, I don’t actually know anyone that does that kind of work. I would like somone who has experience with these rifles to do the job so they can get the checkering correct. I want it to look absolutely original. Do you have someone in mind?
Thanks Isaac

I can only comment on work I’ve seen.
Kudu Services in Victoria for the metal work.
A couple of guys I know for the stock work, though they don’t do it as a business. When the time comes, send me a pm and I’ll ask if they will take it on.

I’m pretty sure theres businesses closer to you with good reputations, Sunshine Coast Gunsmithing to name one.
 
I can only comment on work I’ve seen.
Kudu Services in Victoria for the metal work.
A couple of guys I know for the stock work, though they don’t do it as a business. When the time comes, send me a pm and I’ll ask if they will take it on.



I’m pretty sure theres businesses closer to you with good reputations, Sunshine Coast Gunsmithing to name one.

Okay I will, thanks
 
Come to think of it, there is a member here that some refer to as ‘The Stock Whisperer’.

I won’t out him, but I’ll alert him to this thread...


The Stock Whisperer… sounds like he’s the man for the job! Ha!
Isaac
 
;)

That sweet little rifle has been loved to death it looks like the checkering has recieved some from some 180 grit:rolleyes:

I think there may be some nice timber under all that muck well worth a resto that is for sure.
 
G'day Isaac, terrific old rifle that has done a lot of work, but still has plenty left in it. As soon as I saw that dent in the stock on top of the grip area I thought "ex-pro shooters rifle" - I have one that has that same dent. Apparently it is from sitting upside down in a cradle or similar in the shooting vehicle.

A thread on my old rifle: https://sakocollectors.com/forum/threads/a-hard-used-l461-hb-223-now-17-222.9567/

By the way, the Stock Whisperer has already posted on this thread......

Marcus
 
My old girl:

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The dent in the top of the grip - I couldn't steam it out:

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Marcus
 
G'day Isaac, terrific old rifle that has done a lot of work, but still has plenty left in it. As soon as I saw that dent in the stock on top of the grip area I thought "ex-pro shooters rifle" - I have one that has that same dent. Apparently it is from sitting upside down in a cradle or similar in the shooting vehicle.

A thread on my old rifle: https://sakocollectors.com/forum/threads/a-hard-used-l461-hb-223-now-17-222.9567/

By the way, the Stock Whisperer has already posted on this thread......

Marcus


Marcus
That’s a very nice rifle in deed, and yes it was bought off an old roo shooter. The worn bit on the grip can also be caused by the rear window gun racks in utes. The stock whisperer graced me with a message and has agreed to take on the job! Will get it send off this week.
Isaac
 
Marcus
That’s a very nice rifle in deed, and yes it was bought off an old roo shooter. The worn bit on the grip can also be caused by the rear window gun racks in utes. The stock whisperer graced me with a message and has agreed to take on the job! Will get it send off this week.
Isaac
Hey, I'd love to see progress on this if you have progressed.. I have recently picked up the same rifle, however with the original 222 barrel etc. Very cool guns
 
Some updated photos after it’s had the stock whisperers touch
 

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Indeed!
…and touch it he did!

Amazing, amazing timber and a beautiful job showing it!

Put her back together soon so we can see her final glory!
Oops .. nevermind I just saw the firing pin post😏
 
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