Caution! Exploding Tikka!

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  1. barney

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    A friend and man that used to work for me had a Tikka blow up on him at the shooting range south of Bismarck ND last October. I wouldn't have believed it except I know Rick Hofferber very well and have hunted with him for years. He was using factory ammo and had only about 20 rounds through the gun when it completly came apart upon firing.
    I am a big fan of Sako's and own quite a few of these guns and Berreta shotguns but the way Berreta is handling this situation is appauling! They offered him a new gun. This is a joke for a company like Berreta. They should be all over this trying to make it right. I can understand having a bad batch of steel but I can't understand not stepping up and letting everyone know of the potential danger and then making it right with the unfortunate gun owners that unknowingly purchased Berreta's mistake. Thank the Lord my friend was not seriously injured or killed.
    I love Sako's like my children but this situation has me thinking about changing brands.
    Barney

     

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    This has been widely published in gun forums and magazines for months.This
    involves Tikka stainless steel models made after Feb 2004. There is a
    Beretta hot line available to check your rifles SN. All but 5% of Tikka
    owners have had these rifles recalled and Beretta is sending them all brand
    new rifles. I don't see what else they can do. It wasn't their fault that a
    bad batch of steel was produced in Finland or wherever. Sako rifles and
    blued Tikka's are not affected by the recall.
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    A friend and man that used to work for me had a Tikka blow up on him at the
    shooting range south of Bismarck ND last October. I wouldn't have believed
    it except I know Rick Hofferber very well and have hunted with him for
    years. He was using factory ammo and had only about 20 rounds through the
    gun when it completly came apart upon firing.
    I am a big fan of Sako's and own quite a few of these guns and Berreta
    shotguns but the way Berreta is handling this situation is appauling! They
    offered him a new gun. This is a joke for a company like Berreta. They
    should be all over this trying to make it right. I can understand having a
    bad batch of steel but I can't understand not stepping up and letting
    everyone know of the potential danger and then making it right with the
    unfortunate gun owners that unknowingly purchased Berreta's mistake. Thank
    the Lord my friend was not seriously injured or killed.
    I love Sako's like my children but this situation has me thinking about
    changing brands.
    Barney
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    the Sako/Tikka Rifle Recall HotLine # is: 1.800.503.8869

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    G'Day folks,
    It's bloody bad luck when a rifle blows up but I also call my experience with Beretta Australia BAD LUCK ! ! !.
    I am one of the Tikka owners to have his rifle recalled but we here in OZ don't get brand spanking new rifles...........WE GET EXCUSES.
    I've been waiting to get my Tikka T-3 Stainless Lite in .243w not replaced but REPAIRED AND WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ALMOST SIX MONTHS AND YES THEY RECALLED MY RIFLE IN EARLY OCTOBER AND SINCE THEN IT'S BEEN EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE.
    Sako wont even answer calls or emails leaving it to the snivveling grovelling little go-fors at the Aussie head office to ignor us.
    I can't even get em to arrange a replacement rifle for a pre-booked weekend guided hunt.
    I've got plans and I will post them later but folks in the US and Canada please consider yourself lucky if you recieved a new rifle cause we here are really getting a raw deal.
     
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    G'day Mate. I read on one of the gun forums that Tikka has a huge backlog. One of the guys ordered a new Tikka and the dealer told him to expect the rifle in October. That's outrageous IMHO. I would rather just go on Guns America and find a 99% or better L579 or L61R and buy one of those for around 700 bucks. Unfortunately, you are dealing with big corporate America and not Sako anymore. They have done a good job from a disaster control point of view....I'll bet the Beretta corporate "space" honchos are counting their cash and guys like you are at the whim of the big boys. Good luck and regards, Rick.
     
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    Barney,
    What would you have the parent company of Tikka, Beretta do in this situation?

    It was not clear in your post just what you think that Beretta should be doing?

    ???
     
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    Hi Gogo,
    What would I do if I were the Beretta company?
    I would be all over this making it right with the poor souls who had a gun they trusted was manufactured and tested by a half century old company with their reputation on the line.
    The above message from ricksako implying that it was not Beretta's fault that they received a bad batch of stainless steel doesn't cut it.
    Rick it is Beretta's responsibilty to make sure the steel they manufacture a gun from is made to withstand certain pressures.
    The buck stops there! You cannot look for excuses. This is not the blame game, The company cannot use, " I didn't know" or "because" or whatever feeble reason! They made the gun and they are responsible for the gun if it blows up in someones face.
    If a wheel falls off a car because of a defect the manufacturer of the car is at fault and the manufacturer is liable.
    I own two companies and I have to be liable for my products I produce.
    I hate litigation as much as the next guy but if this happened to me I would hire the best law firm I could find and make sure the company set up the best internal testing standards so this would never happen again to one of their customers. Sometimes a lawsuit is the only way to get a large company off their ass and make the changes needed to win back the customers trust.
    Beretta now needs to be squeeky clean, out in the open with this problem and show the world that this will never happen again. Why can't the company talk directly to these people. For God's sake the people should have the direct line to the President of the company. This is life and death problem not a defective zipper on a pair of jeans!
    Maybe a commercial with the Beretta CEO and his children and grand children standing around next to a new stainless steel Tikka while he is shooting it would be a good place to start to rebuild the trust.
    After all this is where my friends kids were when his Tikka blew to shit!
    barney
     
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    Hey...I'm no Beretta fan ...on the contrary. As I see it, a batch of bad
    steel showed up at the Sako factory. Was it tested? What testing standards
    if any are mandatory by Finnish law? Where does the direct responsibility
    lie? Is Sako cupable under international law? On and on and on. You could
    ask hunderds of questions that none of us have any answers.
    Now, what Beretta did was is what goes on in corporate
    America....disaster control. They did a good job covering this up. It stinks
    plain and simple. There are guys all over the world looking for replacement
    rifles....where are they? Who is in charge? What have they done to insure
    this mistake will never happen again? Who is responsible and what is being
    done to insure they are held accountable?
    I hope this clarifies my position on this subject. Regards, Rick.
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    Hi Gogo,
    What would I do if I were the Beretta company?
    I would be all over this making it right with the poor souls who had a gun
    they trusted was manufactured and tested by a half century old company with
    their reputation on the line.
    The above message from ricksako implying that it was not Beretta's fault
    that they received a bad batch of stainless steel doesn't cut it.
    Rick it is Beretta's responsibilty to make sure the steel they manufacture a
    gun from is made to withstand certain pressures.
    The buck stops there! You cannot look for excuses. This is not the blame
    game, The company cannot use, " I didn't know" or "because" or whatever
    feeble reason! They made the gun and they are responsible for the gun if it
    blows up in someones face.
    If a wheel falls off a car because of a defect the manufacturer of the car
    is at fault and the manufacturer is liable.
    I own two companies and I have to be liable for my products I produce.
    I hate litigation as much as the next guy but if this happened to me I would
    hire the best law firm I could find and make sure the company set up the
    best internal testing standards so this would never happen again to one of
    their customers. Sometimes a lawsuit is the only way to get a large company
    off their ass and make the changes needed to win back the customers trust.
    Beretta now needs to be squeeky clean, out in the open with this problem and
    show the world that this will never happen again. Why can't the company talk
    directly to these people. For God's sake the people should have the direct
    line to the President of the company. This is life and death problem not a
    defective zipper on a pair of jeans!
    Maybe a commercial with the Beretta CEO and his children and grand children
    standing around next to a new stainless steel Tikka while he is shooting it
    would be a good place to start to rebuild the trust.
    After all this is where my friends kids were when his Tikka blew to shit!
    barney

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    Barney, you are absolutly right about the A2 bbl..Baretta is at fault. If
    they are a good company they should accept responsibility and use their
    QUALITY CONTROL section to resolve the problem.

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    It's almost June and I'm still in the dark as to the return of my recalled Tikka T-3.
    Beretta Aust write me official looking letters from time to time advising me of the return of my rifle at the end of the month but it never happens.
    This is 9 months now. I thought I'd get serious and send a letter to the head office in Italy but the vino must be flowing a little too freely as it's been a few months and to no avail.

    Anyone for a Tikka.........................I think NOT !!!!!
     
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    Agreed.

    Waited so long for my Sako as well. Bretta Australia have such a monopoly they obviously don't feel the need to have customer focus. Even worse for those of us on the west Coast as I'm led to believe that you can only import firearms to the East coast. Then they come across the Nullabore.
     

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