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Can an AV Stroeger be a Finnbear?

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Finnbear is just a general term used for the long actions- L61, AV, 691, etc. On the earlier guns, they put it on the barrel. On the AV's they pulled it off the barrel but put it on the pamphlet.

Don't get hung up on the name- just think of it as the long action, Forrester the medium and Vixen the small.

Dave
 
Generally, the medium action calibers are: .22-250, .243, 7-08, .308. The long action based are 6.5x55, 25-06, .270, .280, 30-06, and the magnums.

Next time you are in a sporting goods store, pull out a reloading book and look at the overall length (OAL) of the rounds, You will see the differences in length. It's worth the $20 for the book. You will also see how most rounds are simply derived from one very popular round (30-06 for instance) and are merely necked up or down.

You will also pick up info such as the .308 can actually propel a 150 gr bullet faster than the 30-06 all else being equal, since the .308 can be loaded to higher pressures. Again, it's worth the $20 just from what you will learn.

Dave
 
Dave,

My reason for asking was because I own the Stroeger import 270 and could never figure out what designation it carried. I am familiar with reloading as I have done it for several years with a 7MM that I had, a 30-06 and now the 270. I could just never figure out what people referred to when they said long action. I have never had my 270 referred to as a Finnbear.

Steve
 
Steve,

If you have a Stoeger import it is likely an AV action. By this time, Sako pulled the Finnbear name off the barrel, but if you have the original box or manual, you will see it there.

Dave
 
Like I made it.........Are you sure it came from the factory that way?

At 2.235" OAL the 7x57 falls in between most medium and long action rounds. With the right bullets it may work out, but I'll bet you can't use a ballistic tip type bullet over 150 grains with a medium to slow burning powder and have it fit in the magazine. Sako chambered the .284 Winchester for Browning in the Sako medium action, and that setup had issues with longer bullets and the 7x57 is even a longer case yet.



Dave
 
Dave,

Sorry it took a while to get back to you. I have the original box but never received the original manual for this gun. I bought it new from a sporting goods store so I made sure I got the box. Will pull it down to see if the manual is inside it.

Steve
 
The first Stgoeger imports were still marked Finnbear on the long action and had the old shroud. I own one. I assume they used up the old parts til gone then switched over to the new style. Sako did the same thing from Riihimaki to L57, L57 to L579 and pre Garcia to Garcia. I own a 5 digit action with a 2 lug bolt. I have seen them with the 3 lug bolt with the Garcia import mark. With Sako anything is possible. Regards, Rick.
 
Dave,

Finally got to look at the original box and you are correct. Right on the end of the box it states "FINNBEAR". I did not look inside the box for the manual yet. Will do that another time. Thanks again.

Steve
 
Steve!

Is it the original barrel?? I have never seen a Sako with 7x57 cal nor have I seen it advertised in catalogs or elsewhere.

But as Rick so wisely put it: Everything is possible with Sako!!

Regards

Jim
 
It is my understanding that there were a few prototypes in this chambering. I do not have one, but have seen it documented somewhere. Sako Finnbear will be able to tell us, as he is a Sako metric caliber guru. We should explore this further. Any pics of the caliber markings ? Sako font ?

DeerGoose
 
I saw a 7x57 at the Tulsa show 4 years ago. I asked the price and the dealer said it was sold......call it 97%......$2200.00. They must be rare.....this dealer is a Sako guy. Regards, Rick.
 
Dave,

Somewhere there must be a mis-understanding. My gun is not a 7 X 57. It is a 270. Not sure how my reply got mixed up with the one by mattoo48 but some how it did. Thanks for the help anyway. I am still going to look for the manual in the box to see if it is there.

Steve
 
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