Abstained use of a L61R

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  1. Clay

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    Hello group,


    I have a L61r Sn 58XXX , it does not say Bofors steel, it has no import markings, it has the third lug on the bolt, the checkering on the action is fine. I have owned this rifle for about 20 years and I purchased it from the original owner. I have the original rings, but no box. It is chambered in 7mm rem mag. It is in unfired condition. I acquired Tikka M65 deluxe around the same time and it became my hunter. The reality of life is the Tikka, and the other rifles I hunt with, are the rifles I love the most and would never part with. I am curious what my abstinence with the Sako has netted me. Thank you in advance for your responses.

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  2. paulsonconstruction

    paulsonconstruction Sako-addicted

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    Very little! L61R's in a common caliber like the 7mm Rem Mag don't have much "collector" interest. Condition does affect market value, but as "shooters" the difference between one in good to very good condition & one in excellent condition is minimal. I just saw a NIB AIII (successor to the L61R) in 7mm Rem Mag sell about three weeks ago at a local estate auction for $900. That's not anymore than what I've seen ones that were used & had a few dings sell for. Your's just doesn't have what trips some buyers trigger, so to speak. Certain calibers, the "Bofors" stamp, Deluxe models, etc, will bring a slight premium, but in the end it's worth what a guy standing in front of you will reach in his pocket for. Abstinence is not fun anyway. Go shoot the darn thing.
     
  3. stonecreek

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    Great condition always helps the value of any gun, whether it is a common "shooter" or a rare "collector". But as Paulson indicates, the difference in your Finnbear in "rarely fired" condition and one that has been hunted with but treated well is not very significant.

    Of course, it will sell quicker and bring more money than a similar one in good shooting condition but with some dings and scratches, but the difference is in the range of 10 or 15%, not double or triple.
     
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    I should have mentioned it is a Deluxe. Just to confirm, the serial number, three lug bolt, no import marking, places it production prior to '72 correct? I understand the Bofors marking was removed about '69 ?
     

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    paulsonconstruction Sako-addicted

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    Same auction a Deluxe AIII in 270 Win, NIB, went for $1025, but I've seen Deluxes sell for a few hundred higher. No import stamp means it was imported before the Gun Control Act of 1968 went into effect or it was brought in by an individual. LBJ signed the GCA of 68 in Oct., but the import stamp probably wasn't implemented until late 68 or early 69. "Bofors" went away sometime in 68. Based on the serial number, which is always shaky with any Sako, I would "guess" your rifle was imported in the time frame between the Bofors stamp being dropped & the import stamp requirement going into effect.
     
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    . . . or, lots of those were brought home by U.S. service men returning from Europe.

    A Deluxe model benefits a bit more than a standard model from being in pristine condition. I might raise my premium range for a "rarely fired" Deluxe to the 15-20% range. But the price a Deluxe brings will be much more dependent on how the potential buyer views the quality of the wood figure.
     
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    Just for fun, suppose this was a deluxe L61R in new condition with no Bofors or import stamp ( S/N in 58xxx range) in 300 H&H. How much would this chambering affect value?
     
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    The .300 H&H probably brings the highest premium of any caliber in the L61R (at least among those calibers cataloged and regularly produced.) How much that premium might be depends on lots of factors, but somewhere from 20% to 50% would be a ballpark estimate over a .30-06 or 7mm Rem in the same gun.
     
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    I’m most familiar w the early L46’s, but curious to learn more about the large actions. How does the .375 H&H rate in terms of desirable calibers? How much of a difference does it make between being a L61R or later AV?
    Thanks
     
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    The large calibers like .375 are a kind of niche chambering. They are in demand by fairly well-heeled individuals for Alaska and Africa, and perhaps by resident hunters in Alaska and parts of Canada, but not so much by the typical southern or Midwestern deer hunter. As a result, the market is somewhat "thinner" than for other calibers, but when a buyer for a .375 does come along he typically has the money, so it may be priced a bit higher than, say, a .300 Win. The .375 does tend to be a slower mover on the market than many smaller calibers.

    If it is a Bofors-marked L61R then it will certainly command a better price. If it is a late L61R then the price wouldn't be much different from an A-V. The appeal of the wood probably makes more difference than whether it is an L61R, A-III, or A-V, especially in a Deluxe.
     
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    I wish I had good news about that rifle, but the chambering is a real killer. I doubt there is a worse caliber to have if you want to sell it. Secondly, I doubt if there is a worse caliber to shoot also. Most rifles I have seen that were imported by servicemen returning from Europe, had rear barrel sights.

    You said you had original rings, that is a good thing, put a scope on it and shoot it...
     
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    Three-lug L61R's in .375 !! I'm all over it. Could care less about a later two lug L61R or the AV (even though I have them too). A Bofors .375H&H, it won't be for sale long that's for sure, as they just aren't that many of them around.

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