Short Actions .223 vs .222 Magazine

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  1. Pmangelos

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    I have a Colt Coltsman in .223 Remington (barrel marked Made in Finland), can anyone tell me if the L46 .222 magazines will work in this rifle?


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    Do you know what the problem might be and could it be corrected easily? It is not a collector situation as I have an original I would just like to have a spare when shooting prairie dogs.
     
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    Get a 222 magnum magazine...
     
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    That will be expensive. Original factory mags for the L469 (the "stretch" L46 made for .222 Magnum) sell for $200 and up - when you can find them at all, which is seldom. Who knows, you might get lucky and find a spare Coltsman mag on eBay for less than a Sako .222 Magnum magazine.

    The L46 action and its detachable mag are a bit too short for .222 Magnum or .223, which is why Sako built the stretch actions. The L461 is slightly longer than the L46. A .223 Coltsman with a detachable mag must be based on the L469 (although it might be stamped L46, L469, or no model number at all). A .223 Coltsman on the early action must be a pretty rare bird - I Googled around for a reference and all the images I could find were of L461 actions, which of course do not have a detachable magazine.
     
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    The center rifle is a 223 made from a 222 L46 and uses a 222 magnum magazine. I have been shooting it for years with that conversion...
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    Thanks for posting that. I didn't know a .222 Magnum magazine would even fit into a standard length L46 action, or that a .223 would feed. I'll have to try that out with a couple of my guns.

    And by the way, that is one beautiful rifle! (as are the other two in the photo)
     
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    Coupla beauties! Love a nice gun. Love using a nice gun even more. They aren't made to sit in a dark place to be petted.
     
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    This is off the subject but, what do you use to clean the wood and get the shine on you rifles? Thanks mike
     
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    paulsonconstruction Sako-addicted

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    The L469 is merely a slightly modified L46 & some of the early 222 Magnums were actually stamped L46. The difference is in the bottom metal length & opening, the length of the magazine, the size of the action opening where the magazine fits, & the location of the bolt stop/ejector. The action bodies themselves are the same. The mods were to allow the 1/10" longer 222 Mag to feed & eject from the L46 action body. A 222 Mag magazine will not fit the 222 Rem bottom metal & vice versa.
     
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    Those are custom rifles with hand rubbed oil finish. I like it better than the lacquer finish...
     
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    Very attractive. What kind of oil was used?
     
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    I have a couple of L46 that the finish is cloudy. I wasn't sure what would work best to clean the finish
     
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    Where did you get the stocks? They are lovely and whoever did them did a great job. I'm no Sako expert but I didn't pick up they not factory sako. 99% of the stocks im currently looking at to replace on my L579 just don't look the part.
     
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    I use Birchwood Casey Stock Sheen and Conditioner. Any good automotive cleaner wax would also work. If those are older L46 rifles with an oil finish, you could use a neutral (unstained) cleaner/polish made for oil-finished wood furniture, or even Watco Rejuvenating Oil, depending on how much work the wood needs. Some late L46 rifles had the later-style Monte Carlo stocks and high-gloss varnish finish. Oil-based products should not be used on these stocks, as they will just sit on the surface and not penetrate as they would on a real oil finish.
     
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    Those are all custom stocks with American Walnut from Dennis Olson in Plains, Montana. I wanted good wood and he provided that and did all the other work to make 4 varmint rifles with 2 L57 and 2 L46 actions with Lilja barrels...
     
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    Cracka! They look well worth the investment.
     

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